Answered Bait(ed)

[The Real Slim Jim]

im making this thread to get other peoples insight into wether or not a CT baiting should be kos for a T.

 

when i started playing jb it was Not KOS and was the cts fault when you got baited and tbh thats the way uh huh uh huh i like it uh huh uh huh. however i see the validity in having it be kos as bait can range from a stab to a backstab and most of the time you know you are going to damage a ct and can avoid it.

 

i would definitely be in favor of this rule changing back but what does everyone else think

Edited January 15 by rygor

[R3Flex]

I think if you see a CT bait you shouldn't be a dick and kill the T as the T didn't do anything 

Just my take lmao 

Edited January 12 by R3Flex

[.touchy]

I feel that if it is easily shown that a ct walks into a person to be damaged and others notice the T shouldn't be killed but instead the ct should be punished for it only. Some situations there can be an easy difference to tell. I would love to hear others opinions.

[pupster]

I agree with reflex I voted but I misclicked. If you kill a t for damaging a ct that was baiting you shouldn’t punish the t for the cts actions

[Benzene]

This has been a topic of discussion for a long time now, and my personal opinion is that the rules should remain as they are now. If a T damages a CT in any way, shape or form, they are KOS. If the managers were to change this rule, then a lot of grey areas would have to be specified, as well as specific scenarios that would or would not be classified as baiting. While some regulars might see situations as pretty clear cut, such as when a CT walks into a T that is already knifing, there are a lot of iffy situations and possible complaints that would arise that just wouldn't be worth the time and effort to clarify something that is that miniscule and minor.

 

Just use your common sense. If you don't want to take the chance of getting killed by a strict CT or a newer player, then just don't knife. If it was a mistake, 90% of players, both CT and T, will recognize that and won't kill you. If a CT walks into you while knifing, that particular CT cannot kill you as that would be T-bait. However, that does not prevent another CT from killing you, as in the most fundamental form possible you damaged a CT.

[The Real Slim Jim]

6 hours ago, Benzene said:

If a CT walks into you while knifing, that particular CT cannot kill you as that would be T-bait.

my brain is furiously going through all the times ive done this and killed for it dangit

[Benzene]

Just now, The Real Slim Jim said:

my brain is furiously going through all the times ive done this and killed for it dangit

Why would you admit that...

 

Player complaint incoming.

[The Real Slim Jim]

1 minute ago, Benzene said:

Why would you admit that...

 

Player complaint incoming.

Rejected : If you find more evidence please make another player complaint!

[paggos]

As the most active JB reg on the server, I wanted to say that this is still a common rule on other jailbreak servers. It makes sense, but zizzle and Dom probably have their reasons for this still being KOS. CTs shouldn't be baiting regardless, but if a T is swinging their knife and a CT comes to close, I personally think that T shouldn't be killed for that.

[Mace]

8 hours ago, The Real Slim Jim said:

Rejected : If you find more evidence please make another player complaint!

Banned.

Thanks for the complaint.

See ya in 3 days.

[Technoblade]

@Nate. why are you the only retarded idiot that voted Only if the ct got killed.

[The Real Slim Jim]

 

16 hours ago, Mace said:

Banned.

Thanks for the complaint.

See ya in 3 days.

damn i hope this is for TTT

no one Cool plays TTT anyways

[IrohJinnouchi]

While the rule does state that doing damage is KOS, baiting is also punishable. I have seen this issue a lot of times in the past, however the admins often solve the problem by punishing the CT that is baiting, that is only if the T that knifed was killed. Most of the time the CTs are not that kill hungry and will not kill for pre-knifing. I don't see this rule as an issue that is big enough for it to change, as the change would create more complicated problems, compared to leaving the rule be.

[janseen]

Changing this rule would only cause confusion. If a CT gets knifed for baiting and the CT dies later then the T would get an assist making him KOS. It would be extremely hard to enforce this.

[rygor]

21 hours ago, IrohJinnouchi said:

While the rule does state that doing damage is KOS, baiting is also punishable. I have seen this issue a lot of times in the past, however the admins often solve the problem by punishing the CT that is baiting, that is only if the T that knifed was killed. Most of the time the CTs are not that kill hungry and will not kill for pre-knifing. I don't see this rule as an issue that is big enough for it to change, as the change would create more complicated problems, compared to leaving the rule be.

This quote here pretty much sums up our thoughts. Making this rule change would make things a lot harder for our admins to enforce, as well as adding unnecessary confusion as to who would be KOS, etc.  So if you were to damage a guard in any way it would make you KOS, even if you were baited. Baiting is still against the rules though, and is 100% punishable by our admins.