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No problem troy, at least when you were angry you still stated your opinion in a calm and reasonable way. And just for the record: x-liner didn't get a warning. If you review the screen shot posted in the complaint you will see it got recorded without a warning.. I appreciate your useful input. And thanks for appreciating (probably useless) help P.S: I only reply angrily when I see an obviously angry reply ;)

isn't that a tiny bit obvious anyway? If you fall for that then you 25% deserve to lose your account...

OK drox thank you for being so friendly And thats my old test method, until I got banned off of some german dd2 server XD

Drox, thanx again for your calm and thoughdful post... But did you notice that I added words to change the situation like: FAIL zombie retry UNAIMED trolling just but pointing it out ok, you know what? Can we end this, i've stated one of my thougths. I asked if anyone has thought of that People gave their replies(some tense and angrry, some calm and halepful) Lock please? Seriously? Everyone who has posted has seemed to be angry with me, did I start a fire? I was just backing up my point (kind of).. JUST TO SUM UP WHAT I WAS GETTING TO: Servers are built on regular players, when they leave, a new 'genereation' is hard to attract..

ok i'm going to right my response starting from the top and ending at the bottom of your text wall... Here comes the rape-o-copter.... First off, this post is about the suggestion(and question) that i am making,(this is for everyone who has replied) I am NOT saying it is right, I'm SAYING it COULD be a FACTOR. Second, there ARE multiple points that I have made, the links to the MAIN point COULD count as evidence. Third, I don't care whether it is true or not, big or small. I am just stating a possibility. At least you got some of that.... Fourth, the comprehension skills bit was a JOKE, GET OVER IT. I understand people may not agree, I'm just don't really find the reason you gave on the previous post to be exactly reflecting what i TYPED. Then you believe that I think my theory is 'brilliant', I do not; I was stating something that probably isn't true, I'm just another person trying to help.... Fifth, because the statement you said first didn't exactly reply to what I meant (I understand if you miss-read it) but then you use a quote that doesn't fully support your suggestion Sixth, I don't believe I have been banned (have I?) I'm just trying to apply some empathy so I can make a new point (You do know what empathy is right? Primary school?). And I clearly stated that the people I'm talking about are others outside SG. They are the regulars I am talking about; they could just leave like that *click* and then the server population drops. Get it? You can read the posts a billion times and still get it wrong from the point of view you are reading it from. And drox, I respect your opinion because it is well thought and calmly wrote. However, lets see the people who have been reported, did the majority of them get banned with a warning? *insert name here* has just gone and reported them without warnings(it's true). Also I am not saying I feel uncomfortable, in fact far from it(I was just saying everyone has feelings, and I was the first example I would have thought of ), I am saying that some people would have been reported by me but I realized how frustrated and stressed they are, even after warnings they persist but they were only committing minor offences so I just let it slide. And once again do I have to state that I am not against the rules, but players get uncomfortable when CERTAIN PEOPLE join. (not admins, they make them feel safe) My definition of minor offences: Fail zombie retry, it is pretty funny for nearly everyone if a fail zombie retries. Un-aimed trolling, quite pathetic and funny. Activating others objects: It is amusing and not THAT harmful Fake afk(it's not against the rules is it?): From what *insert name here* said, you can get banned from this. It is commonly done in voodoo and everyone knows to be careful, if a human is caught then we all laugh Anything else that doesn't really annoy 25% of the server.... I respect your opinions I will try to help the community as well as I can (without paypal ) By H/Z/K

Ok wow... again, comprehension skills? First off, I HAVE read many reasons why the server is dying Second, one quote can not sum up my whole 'essay' XD it has multiple points not one Third, I didn't say it IS the reason, once again i am stating it MAY BE a factor Fourth, the way you word your sentences is showing slight dislike towards me for no apparent reason. If you DO have something against me them pm it to me... Fifth, you edited your post to put a quote in, that SHOWS your argument has changed to make mine seem invalid.... Sixth, would you like it if you were frustrated so you do one little thing then get yourself banned? I THINK NOT, so don't go thinking no-one else has emotions (like me). Finally, READ MY POSTS AGAIN

ok have you read my post wrong AGAIN? Seriously why do people change the word order of the statements to criticise it. Or your comprehension skills aren't paticularly 'perfect' Usually I would say I respect your opinion, however (no offence) but that reply is far from valid italian jew....

im not saying don't have rules, I think the rules are good, I just don't believe that banning someone for one thing is particularly nice. I'm also not saying that all the rule breakers are fun to play with, far from it. I'm saying that the players WILL feel uncomfortable for getting banned after once breaking a minor rule... To riperzz, i'm trying to help by giving extra information, I'm not saying THIS IS the reason, I'm saying it COULD be a factor, there are people that I would have reported for being a friendly zombie or retrying however I don't, you know why? Because I at least show some empathy and realize their frustration, unless they're trying to be annoying then I report them, even if I have got into an argument with, for example YOU! And at least I'm trying to help... to drox, I have been playing on these servers for a while as well, this server, other servers and even dead servers in the past. From what I know, the people will enjoy ze every time they play it. But having someone saying "stop doing that, i'm going to report you" or "that's against the rules" every five seconds is irritating. AGAIN i'm not sayng CONSTANT RULE BREAKERS shouldn't be banned; I'm saying that when CERTAIN PEOPLE come on, many people don't have as much fun... By CERTAIN PEOPLE I do not mean admins, I mean other CERTAIN PEOPLE I understand your opinions By H/Z/K

well, considering the fact that the server population for ze is diminishing. Urgent attention is probably needed so the servers can rebuild itself. Many of us have been think and speaking alot about the decline of ZE and, the group... I believe there is a factor that no-one has mentioned(from what I have read) it is........ The regular players(not members) have been banned once or twice so that makes them less-confident with server so they leave the servers and go to new ones, or they have been permed. I am just saying, the people that bring life to the server have all been bored or banned so they will make other servers better. People like hunti, he gave everyone a good time, and now he's banned. JimW also did that and since hes been banned three times and, if he has read the forums, he will PROBABLY be not-so secure with the server. Also x-liner has been reported, he was a great player to be with, he got into an arguement with *insert name here* but I was on x-liners side because I respect him from the way he handled it, they are just SOME examples... And because the regular players have gone, new players will not join, and since the new players won't join, only events have filled the server. Most people don't bother with the motd so they just do what they think is right, but one small slip WILL get them banned if *insert name here* is on the server. I know I have reported someone for one of these offences, but I did it to show *insert name here* that even people helping THEM can break rules and get reported, it's really frustrating! Basically, please stop banning everyone for small offences and keep the regulars REGULAR. I put this here because the community suggestions aren't viewed much AND because it is a question... If you have mentioned this then that's great If you think by *insert name here* I mean you then I'm showing you my point(or your wrong ) I respect your replies By H/Z/K

ok wow that was quick, anyways thanx guys, and troy, that was a good joke also theyre not too-high up (arouund supporter) please lock this

ok this is serious, but i don't mind a GOOD joke Certain people are really being mean to me: blackmailing, trolling, threatening etc Its because of one of these reasons: Jealousy , feeling of superiority, feeling of inferiority, stress or frustration. Im not going to name people but I just want to know how to make them stop 'cos it is getting out of hand, im trying to be peaceful and I don't want hatred. I can't report them because of 3 reasons: 1. They are respected alot i think, hated by some people who got banned but are very nice to me. And liked by others who are nice to me, so I'm torn inbetween because I would hate them, but in my time away from css i have gotten wiser so I would not want enemies: no-one gets benefits from that 2. No-one would take me seriously. I have apparently been banned by a complaint from one of them, but it wasn't me playing it was my bro (i banned him so hemad ) and they also claim to have material that could get me banned. One of them threatened me when I had a demo of them being friendly zomb, but I promised I won't show it to anyone because I don't want enemies, however a witness has a demo of them threatening me; one of the others retried 2 secs after a zombie caught him, thats just as bad as retrying to avoid kills but I told them I realised their frustration and said I won't report them, but they both still come back. The others are bad but in different ways, like attempting to blackmail me over fake evidence. 3. I prefer to handle it myself, I can hold my own, they are not bullies, just not very peaceful beings. There are more reasons but I want to get back 2 playing ZE(im british, its 18:00 right now) If they speak up and admit it then thats great; if not, thats fine. If they flame/troll on this forum then IMAD!!!!!! So thank you for any help. I will name them if it continues I respect your (reasonable) opinions, statements etc By H/Z/K