Just wondering

[Spiffy]

I know some of you are going to hate to hear this, probably bitch and disagree but I want you to do your own research and look at the facts before you claim anything.

 

 

A competitive reg server with league maps and a regular setup is not going to survive in this community without a custom map server and the SGSL. I used to think if we put up a reg server and tried to bring back the SGSL everything would populate but now I realize we need a player base before the SGSL can even be considered. A player base is not going to come from a competitive server right away from the simple fact that most people who play in those servers are not ones to stick around a community like this normally.

 

 

Yes, that is correct, I said it will not survive without a custom map server and I can back that up. I want you to spend some time looking at the top reg servers these days but I will give you one example:

 

 

This is a server that has players on it 24 hours a day and most of those hours with 40+.

 

 

Current Map Rotation

de_losttemple

de_vertigo_css_day

cs_office_unlimited_oc

de_villa

de_cpl_fire

de_bluecorridor

de_contra_cal

de_desert_atrocity_v3

de_nightfever

de_beroth_beta

de_piranesi

cs_italy_tactik2

de_cpl_mills

de_dust2_unlimited

 

 

As you can see almost every single map on here is a "custom" map. Piranesi is the only completely stock map. Fire, contra and mill are current and previous competitive maps and they have a custom dust2, italy and office. Losttemple, vertigo, villa, bluecorridor, desert, nightfever and beroth are completely custom maps. As with almost every hugely popular server, awps are disabled.

 

 

Here is my explanation: There are two types of reg players these days. Those that love competition and and want normality from their reg servers. These are the people that play on 24/7 one to three map servers. The second type are the people like myself who may or may not be competitive but love a little variety and get bored of playing maps like dust2 and season all the time. We have tried to no end and continually failed to attract the first group I mentioned.

 

 

Personally I would love to see a custom map server of about 40 slots and 8 maps. I would try 5 "regular" maps (mill, contra, etc. included) and 3 custom maps with maps being rotated every month. I am always up and down what to do with the money but I have always liked the idea of having 16k but after the first couple "pistol" rounds. I don't really like warmup timers either. I like to have short map times (around 15-20 minutes each) to keep the variety going. It almost has to have an auto team balance mod. I know that people hate getting switched teams but from my experience people hate getting rolled for an entire map even more. It wouldn't hurt to have a 24/32 slot 24/7 server with awps along side it.

 

 

Before you say anything, I know that the current reg server setup contradicts almost everything I just posted but I just went with what everyone "seemed" to want here because the last time I veered from that it was more bitching than I could handle.

 

 

Here is our current server setup:

 

 

24 slots

Map time limit is 15

Friendly fire is off

Start money is 800

 

 

I basically took off all the mods except stats and quake sounds. I also set quake sounds to be off by default to new players. You can change it but typing "!settings".

 

 

The map rotation is a little complicated but here is how it works. Some maps are limited by how many players are in the server and will not show up until the required amount is met. The map rotation is setup to pick a random map but not chose the last 3 played. The main 4 maps are dust2, season, mill and nuke. I also gave those maps more weight so they should be picked more often at random than the other maps.

 

 

Rotation with

de_dust2

de_season

de_nuke

de_cpl_mill

 

 

Rotation with 12+ players

de_dust2

de_season

de_nuke

de_cpl_mill

de_cpl_fire

de_inferno

de_contra

de_tuscan

 

 

Rotation with 16+ players

de_dust2

de_season

de_nuke

de_cpl_mill

de_cpl_fire

de_inferno

de_contra

de_tuscan

de_cpl_strike

de_scorch

de_train

 

 

I have done very little to populate the server lately because I have a lot on my plate right now and until the end of this week. When I have been on I just wanted to wind down and play.

 

 

Again, I know most of you want to disagree with this and I completely understand because I used to be the same way but I urge you to look around and see what is really popular these days and take into consideration everything that I have said. I put a lot of time into this and I have a lot of experience with reg servers and play reg the majority of the time.

 

 

P.S. - I appreciate that you recognize this community could greatly benefit from having reg.

[stratos]

GG server - YES, even if it only will we populair for 1 month...

And about REG server, i would absolutly be able to play there, but if we really wanted to get ppl to reg server it shud have been started in the beginning of summer, when all kids have summer vacation because then theres alot of time to play, and now its almost over, i got 1 week left, and after that i wont be able to play more than 4h aday, maybe less. But go for it ? I guess it cant get any worse than crackhouse...

 

Use events to fill reg server up, and use credits as reward, wud be great.

 

\_(* *)_/

 

Edit: As it is now, i go to *another community* de_dust2 24/7 server when i wanna play reg, been playin there for over 1 year, never got tired of de_dust2.

[Jazz]

Zombie Escape server with only block/classic maps.

 

Some people like the current server, which only plays new/no-block maps, and some like classic maps. So whenever we go to a classic map, new people gets pissed off, and whenever we go to a new/no-block map, oldskool people leaves. A seperation here would probably work.

[Nemesis]

We already have enough ModServers , i really want to a see 'reg' server work. We can get GG but what's the plan after the initial 2 weeks.

 

Edit: Also about spiffy's post , That could work but no CS maps , i hate office with a passion

[t8rtits]

GUNGAME is a must

[kabLe]

For everyone who thinks 24/7 D2 is the answer. You've obviously never played reg before. And the maps that you posted spiffy are not custom maps as far as not league rotation. All of them you suggested have been or are currently in CEVO/ESEA map rotation. With those maps though, you will attract those of us who liked the competitive scene and actually have skill in the game. Once those who join that suck, either one of us is gonna get bored and leave and then that starts a chain reaction, I've seen it happen, or you are gonna attract all the people who suck and then when randy good person comes in the people from this community is gonna rq. My question is how is the community gonna react when idk say frozen steps into the server. Nobody has a chance against him in this community. Even if hes fucking around with a scout hes gonna stomp these people. So they are gonna rq.

[BlackEagle]

Maybe we could do a mixed ZM server, but not everything else. No one would play it if it kept switching between MG and ZM and GG and all that other shit. I think it would be cool to have a mixed ZM (like vip, regular, breakfloor, new maps and old maps) that was on a random rotation. That way, no map is over played, maps that no one likes can be picked out and removed easily, and the Old-fags and New-fags all get their own time to play.

 

With GG, it will have a high population for maybe 3 weeks, then, like last time, it will be down to me, Zealot and some other that play on it a lot (At least i think it was Zealot), for a grand total of maybe 7 people on at a time. If we have make events enough, we can keep it up for maybe 2 months i think. I love GG, but it seems like SG gets tired of it.

 

And as for Reg, custom maps make people like me not want to play because most of them are unbalanced and suck. Regualar maps make most other people not want to play because they suck and rage quit. If we could get a army of about 20 medium to good players that played regularly, we could then gain a steady population. but that's the only way I can think of.

 

As for the other mods mentioned, scout knifes doesn't have a chance, and we have a trikz server for bhop, which would aslo be dead quickly. We need to gain more peopel that don't just play on one server to keep up all of these oter servers.

 

You and I suggested the same thing for like the mix server haha. I would love to see VIP again but I know it wouldn't survive on its own. I too would love to see GG really bad.

[Nemesis]

the only answer A REG VIP SERVER xD

[Superkiller67]

GUNGAME is a must

i play gungame on a other server and nobody was playing after 10 day.

[Spiffy]

For everyone who thinks 24/7 D2 is the answer. You've obviously never played reg before. And the maps that you posted spiffy are not custom maps as far as not league rotation. All of them you suggested have been or are currently in CEVO/ESEA map rotation. With those maps though, you will attract those of us who liked the competitive scene and actually have skill in the game. Once those who join that suck, either one of us is gonna get bored and leave and then that starts a chain reaction, I've seen it happen, or you are gonna attract all the people who suck and then when randy good person comes in the people from this community is gonna rq. My question is how is the community gonna react when idk say frozen steps into the server. Nobody has a chance against him in this community. Even if hes fucking around with a scout hes gonna stomp these people. So they are gonna rq.

 

You obviously didn't read my entire post. Hell you didn't even read everything that was in red.