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Added note: You no longer need recommendations to apply, though if you do have people who would recommend you, it would help your application to include them.

Stop making threads about you and your girlfriend. You may be overly proud of your accomplishment, the rest of us don't really care.

Postpone until after holidays? Maybe. I don't see any reason why it needs to be rushed right now anyways...Didn't realize how many people are dropping out tbh.

Instead of replacing the members who are leaving, I am planning on just going to lower the amount required, keep same team sizes, and still host the tournament for the cash prize. I understand several of you have other things that are hampering your ability to play, and I am sorry for that. However, to those still winning to play, you will get the full rewards with less competition I guess.

This seems just like what Gametracker does so far? The UI is cleaner, nicer to look at, but still is pretty much the same thing minus all the graphs etc. You should probably add the Banning side of it before asking for major feedback. I removed your link for the time being, since it's basically advertising another server. If you would like to re-upload a screenshot of what it looks like with one of our servers instead, then you may.

I usually just have sex with women I meet on the internet to find out if they're female.

Going with this, tbh. Tired of the wait, I have other things to do, and SG needs more than a 5v5 tourny right now. Octa and BananaJoe please send me messages if you are both still interested in helping run this tournament. My plan is to give this over to Octa/BJ to get started, during which I'm going to focus on other things. They will get teams organized, Caution and I will lay out the maps to be played which weeks, and Octa/BJ will handle reminding teams/setting up team schedules as they come in. Caution and I will overall be in charge, handle Lo3's, any issues that arise, and so on, will be handled by us, but organization can be done by Octa/BJ. Caution, I hope you don't have a problem with this, I simply do not have the time, and I know you are very busy as of late as well.

This is false and can be easily proven wrong. Pointless argument based on little to no facts. Story would imply describing what he's done in the past to make up for his incredibly ability to break THE SAME RULE over and over just 9ish months earlier. People do not change overnight, and even in 9 months. He fucked up the same rule REPEATEDLY without giving a fuck (clearly). I hold no respect for those who held no respect for our rules. Explain to me why we should just let anyone who applies after a year back on the hopes and dreams they have changed, the logic of that is incredibly stupid. Multiple bans for the EXACT. SAME. REASON. are multiple CHANCES to learn not to do them. The fact they are not PERMED is their "forgiveness" you are expecting from us. We judge people based on bans when it is a ridiculous amount over what we usually permit players to have, because it shows an extreme intolerance for paying attention to our rules if they manage to continually break them. Obvious a player coming back after 4 years would be handled differently than one from 6 months. 4 years is time to change, a year is not really that long, and the chances of being changed are slim. This has been proven multiple times in the past where we unban players after a year and they do something in the next MONTH to fuck it up. Humans simply do not change as drastically as your implying they do. Do we turn players away without getting to know them fully? Yes, because we simply do not have time to get to know every person who wants to be unbanned and then take more time to make sure they aren't just putting up a front to get unbanned. Instead, we expect players who have been permed to convince us why they should be unbanned by making a sympathetic apology or explanation for their actions, as I instructed Jack to do in that post you quoted me on. Turns out he didn't really have much to say in his defense other than "Unban me and you'll see if I've changed or not" which simply isn't a good reason to unban someone who repeatedly, over the limit, broke our rules. The SAME rule at that. You clearly have a childish way of looking at the world where you believe people can change overnight and that 1 year is a superduper long time, it simply isn't true. Santa Claus isn't real either. You come in here bashing our community's policies with little respect for those who enforce it, I treat you with no respect either. The next time you call me or any other member of this community out on doing something wrong, you better have a really good logical reason for it, not this crap you face smashed into your keyboard then used spell check to come up with.

I didn't mean the multigame maps, I meant the soccer-only maps that he was referring to that kill out the server. Even if they are hardly played, it's not worth having maps on the server that almost guarantee a server clear-out IF they manage to be played.

I'm fine with giving it a shot if we have the resources, I'm just saying that SG has not really committed to a soccer server in the past. What happened to the SSL(Or whatever they call it now) public servers that basically did this exact thing? First point makes sense, the second part bothers me. A lot of those people (Assuming we have some of the same friends) "mess around" by absolutely stomping on people who are new to the game and stacking a team so they win in the first minute every round. If we get a soccer server, and you fill it with your friends and then a player from SG who wants to try it out joins, they will have a terrible experience having so many serious soccer players in the server. Pls, I played soccer way before you, and have an infamous trick shot that I invented. I also held a record of most goals by a defender in one game. Com@meboi.

Would be more inclined to say that we just remove said maps that kill a server's population. We had a soccer server previously and it did not really work out.

LOL

Just updating this thread with some news you guys can't see: This thread along with suggestions I have been given by players over Steam or PM's has inspired me to finally make a thread in the AO section concerning changes such as what you guys are discussing here. We will be going over them and giving our own thoughts and opinions first since we will be the ones doing all the work server-side and want to clear up what's possible or not possible before we start asking you guys to weigh in. This is by no means a "changes coming very soon" post, but letting you know that they are seriously being discussed by higher ups. One of the changes I plan on going over is announcing things such as this to the public more often. I have always felt left in the dark for the most part when it comes to what the higher ups are talking about or planning. Opening up communication of what's being worked on or discussed will hopefully be a step in the right direction for creating a more friendly and helpful environment in SG where regular players and Admins themselves don't feel like they are excluded from what higher ups are talking about.

I appreciate the support you are showing.

Shots fired. What am I going to do with one hand? Don't answer. I already know. *wink*

Mad as fuck that people like me, poopstain.

I do, just didn't know why he made this thread. All I told him was I would have to ask BD's to wipe the pug server cause I can't do it myself. Clearly this means I should just be BD to accomplish my life goals. LOL.

Removed boa from list by request. Seriously guys hurry up and make your teams. You guys are holding up the tournament. There was a GIANT bitch fit when we decided to randomize teams ourselves last tournament, now you get to pick your teams, and it's still taking forever.

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As I told Mudkip, you don't fit requirements.

The server sub-forums do not get much attention as it is, to be honest. I think reforming the Forums to be divided up by divisions if we choose to have them, would be ideal. Then have sub-forums in them for server suggestions, and other sub-forums for each division. So we would have the division forums be sort of large and a main point of the forums, then off-topic, arts and crafts how we have them, etc. The way the server sub-forums are currently is not giving them enough attention, so division forums with the vital sub-forums regarding servers and so on would be more ideal.

I worded my part about CE poorly, I was more agreeing rather than arguing, then adding those other points in there as a bit of an off-topic subject.

The servers which are struggling or not as popular would pretty much have to take a backseat if we were to incorporate something like making it an SA's responsibility to start up a server (Which really, most SA's should be willing to do in the first place...) and have it be part of the daily thing they do. Then as our other servers become populated and start bringing in fresh regulars, they may be interested in the other servers and they will be the ones to populate them. Not really, considering Caution is controlling so many of the servers as it is, and Spartan mainly handles Garrys Mod. If an AO remains in control of a server and is doing a good job, regardless of how long they in charge of it I'm not sure why we would not still bring up the possibility of promoting someone to help them run it. If I'm in control of a server, and know everything about it and how to take care of it, it doesn't mean I have all the time in the world to do it. If there was a fitting person to help me run it I see no reason why not to try and promote them to help me take care of it. Honestly I am not the biggest fan of "one AO per server", and would like to see more AO's, with AO's being required to have more presence and activity in the community. Also with more AO's we can noticeably see which AO's are pulling their weight and which are not. CE's role to me is fine how it is, though not many utilize it as much as they could. The problem with some CE's is not many realize they are higher ups in terms of rank and how they should act. You're only given mod powers, yes, but the title itself is Community Enforcer, which means you should be actively engaged in the community and know whats going on. Very often I hear most drama news through CE's or people creating problems, which is how I would like CE's to behave. I personally like to see CE's telling SA's how to behave or acting as role models to the SA's rather than "Just an SA with mod powers". You don't have authority to directly punish a SA, but it's within your rank to tell a SA to cut it out if they are acting out of line, and expect them to listen to you. I also expect CE's to report SA's that are acting out of line to AO's more so than other another SA would. It only has potential if people are dedicated to it, which dedication is something that appears to be lacking. Or if it's there, those with it are quiet and go unnoticed.

If I recall, Zriot was using a shitton of events to fill it, the same issue I was talking about. It fills with our own members that just want to help populate, gets filled with majority of our members, then the ones who only wanted to populate leave (Almost everyone) and it dies out. Yeah I didn't have NS2 on my server list when I was comparing TTT to the other servers. But, NS2 incorporates exactly what I was talking about, as you said you have a few people who start it then it fills with new players who become regulars. If every division had an equal form of applying/gaining Admin, I would say it's fair to let Admin members of one "division" have access to another "division's" servers, assuming they show some kind of activity in them, simply because we don't need inactive Admins. I would like to see this discussed more, there's potential in this idea, but we need more opinions weighing in. Also would like talking about reforming the responsibilities of SA's to include jump starting servers that are empty. If all of them are on the same page then they every server would have 4-5 SA's join around after-school time and it would probably increase daily server population. Would appreciate if those of you in this thread or who view this thread would spread the link to it around to people so they can weigh in. We need more opinions, ideas, and thoughts if we're going to fully consider the potential of splitting up SG in divisions. Also this has became a subject about server population and how to refill them so other members of the community may have some good ideas. (Avoid talking about events please...as stated, we do not need OUR members filling the servers, we need NEW members populating majority of a server's capacity)

Low population has nothing to do with who is running it and who is there to make changes. If you look at those other big communities you'll notice something that SG just doesn't appear to have: Their members help populate the servers nearly every day. eGO servers I see the same handful of people that start playing every day to get it started, then it just fills on its own. They do this without events as far as I'm aware, and the members voluntarily do it. We do not have that here, our members don't sit and try to populate the servers, aside from one. TTT is almost always populated by those select few people that get on every day TO populate it and sit in the server inviting friends or waiting for people to join, once it started, it pretty much stays populated throughout the day. (12/24 people right now, highest of all our servers) If we were to get our members to do the same for other servers, it would re-build a fanbase and instead of filling up our servers with our OWN members (via events) they would fill up with NEW members that become regulars due to a select few people starting it up everyday. That is how you create popularity and a player base. You frequently populate a server every single day. You have to be able to do that without events since moderators of the group (AO's+) are not always on every day to play.