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CS:GO's dead/dying guys!: Checkout this knew game its popping off!: Obviously joking but the whole "CS:GO is dead" argument feels like the biggest cope in the universe. It's entirely true that some of the communities that existed before have shrunk down some from around 2015 to now, but if hosting servers still is the idea idk. A lot of the communities were pretty mismanaged and I say that having been one of the most connected people during the stage where we were trying to exist in the little ecosystem NA based communities had. There will be always be new communities and certainly are if you look. Then there's the few that you recognize. The meta itself changes such as Minigames being something with dying interest, which is sad IMO but it was always kind of niche. Then there are more movement servers and so on which have risen in popularity. There isn't any tangible evidence ever given for this argument despite it being wrongly stated over & over again. CS:GO doesn't lack for interest or potential. I clicked through the meeting and heard someone say that you aren't going to get old SG players to play CS:GO. Old SG players, people who liked CS:GO get rank, completely discontinued playing the game less & less from CA up the rank (even some when they managed a CS:GO server) but never used their power to bring about any viable alternative community server option that was successful (some despite promising they would). When it was just a few people doing it, it was chill but eventually JB, TTT, ZE all died from mismanagement not from a lack of interest. The interest in these servers has barely changed albeit maybe TTT which was sorta niche to begin with. All of this to say, SG feels like it spiritually left CS:GO a long time ago. It would be better for SG to try something else if that's what the majority here wants but I don't think the argument that the game is dying is very objective or honest whatsoever. I also think that something that is being overlooked is that CS:GO usually had something in it for everyone, and that just as you aren't going to get old SG players to come play a game that had all kinds of flavors because they don't dig the overall game anymore I don't really think you'll have the greatest time getting them to play something entirely niche either. They're prolly gone albeit some Discord or Forum lurking. I also think that the servers at SG were a huge draw, and that the community is gonna need to chill itself out a lot if it's trying to expand from that because it can be incredibly toxic & unwelcoming for new people. Managing JB there were always a dozen little kids being bullied by someone for trying to exist and if they ever tried to defend themselves they'd manage to get themselves in trouble or bring about more flame. A lot just didn't get involved with TeamSpeak, the forums, and so on to save themselves the trouble.

Playing on the server should be bare minimum if people care. It should literally come before anything else. I don't even mildly understand this viewpoint and would love to see you try to substantiate it. When will anyone log on if the people who care most, don't. You can't just create servers, even if they're great and expect people to just play them. This 100% goes back to the first post I made and standards being way too low. Honestly, I've seen some amazing albeit empty CS:GO servers that pushed the envelope. SG could easily operate on 1 dedi so while his post about removing individual servers it still makes perfect sense in my mind and is a perfectly valid question. Lastly I feel like your posts and attitude about all of this comes off really dismissive and aggressive for no reason. I think you should leave all the posts up unless they're explicitly breaking rules and if you think they're dogshit useless then you don't have to act on them, you really don't even need to respond to them. You responded to me super aggressively & accusatory. I then responded to you addressing the legitimate content of your post. It's jarring that both myself and delirium, who see eye to eye on virtually nothing said the exact same thing almost verbatim. I don't know why you have to make a thread of people making suggestions into a pissing contest where you pick through there posts & respond passive aggressive or straight delete them.

It's important to understand how SG got here if you guys really wanna fix it. It was basically decided some of it's most notoriously successful servers on one of the most popular games of all-time weren't important anymore (unintentionally and intentionally). Playing the servers became less important. Posting on the forums became less important. Accruing bans or play time became less important. Even touching the server you were managing or at all interacting with the community in any remotely perceivable way became pretty unimportant. Frankly a lot of the time no one wanted to interrupt the status quo for the better or be the person to say things were going bad & hold anyone accountable. I looked like an asshole pointing out people's inactivity, telling people no on admin apps, pushing for demotions and against promotions but I still feel that it's the right way to do things. Things always trended way too hard towards leniency and the caliber you were became a lot less important. This situation was exacerbated by changing the process for applying several times in critical ways & made worse when the people being promoted are only loosely known by the people promoting them. If you don't know the person running a server- especially one of the important ones then you don't know their CA's, or their admins, or the player base of the server either. Throughout my time here I have continuously seen people gaslighted on this issue, but this is how it is. I don't even remotely like Fuze but the go-getter attitude to do literally anything at all, have fun (hopefully) doing it, and execute it well is the ONLY measure that ever should have mattered. It's really the only thing that matters running any project. Make this guy BD. SG needed a lot of it's higher-up BD's in the dirt with shovels building servers when things started divebombing. Needed people with red names getting involved with the main 3 and if they HATED the server & it's player base they at the very least could use their experience/pull to have someone underneath them who LOVES the server learn not to be a fuck-up. The current structure at the community where a few people that barely speak to each other build servers that no one has any oversight over and the people with red names infrequently delineate on what is likely unimportant in the grand scheme is not a healthy way for things to run. Have to lead from the front-lines. If it's really decided that SG wants to go another way, that's fine. But the state of having 7 higher-ups and I don't see any indication that one of them is involved with or has really any interest in the big 3 servers that built the community up in it's transition to CS:GO is a problem. There needs to be drastically more involvement or a look at the way things have adapted as SG grew. The theory that CS:GO itself was just something to get away from, that it was in a stage of die-off was pretty malignant IMO. Whatever came from that weren't the most fruitful projects or weren't really supported much by the community at large. It seemed like an excuse to me for people who were otherwise not interested in the servers to stick around in a retirement home and bark at people all day. Anytime a server held good management on CS:GO and were backed by competent TA's, they genuinely did well because that's where the player base was and has always been. SG has been around forever building a community of Counter-Strike players, it would make sense to me to start there and if you want to work up from there then you'll at least have something instead of nothing. Why waste it? The multi-year veterans here aren't interested in niche half-assed one-offs of other games but plenty would probably pop in to see an SG Jailbreak, ZE, TTT run decently. Even some niche one-off inspired projects that were run well at SG have done well when the person behind them really gave it a real try & weren't using them for a promotion to ego on people with.

There was no impending victory but it's impressive how they've managed to pump up the ruble to higher than pre-invasion value. Holy fucking shit to the gas & diesel prices here in NY as well. To be honest although I think the US has good reason to get involved here, (I don't want to reiterate my total & full support for Ukraine) but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. COVID has both expanded & exposed the huge bubble in the US' economy. On the cusp of our economy returning to somewhat normalcy we're now having to fight the headwinds of this war & it's going to seriously affect the Fed's ability to fight inflation in any meaningful way. This could be a really rough, really long recession and given that we're already firing on all cylinders & have been since 2008- I'm pretty concerned. What will the US do if this situation gets more dire? The US has spent every year since 2008 worrying about anything but us having a healthy, real economy & opted to kick the proverbial can down the road. At some point we're going to kick it off a cliff, and it's starting to look increasingly like we're on a wide swing towards unprecedented extremism or wide-spread poverty if our populace doesn't take the issue more seriously. As I said in March when this all started, noone is going to win this war and the only outcome that we can possibly hope for is it for it to end. Any silver lining or permanent restructuring people will claim is occurring or will occur is complete & utter bullshit.

It's just another needless war destabilizing regions and exposing the worlds economic situation for what it is once again. Lets go down the list. UAE won't pick up the call from the US. CHECK. China threatens Western nations if they hold them accountable for saying/doing nothing. CHECK. Russia threatens to close up the shop for oil and nationalize. CHECK. Proxy wars continue to be fought, we handshake with a few frenemies, we frown at a few humanitarian oopsies and yay Ukraine is still standing but make no mistake there are no guarantees & there are no silver linings to this situation. Putin is; by all rights- a dumb cunt for this but it's the rest of the world & most importantly Ukraine who will have to deal with most of the fallout. The side commentaries about stuff like Gas Prices, Palestine, US Imperialism, NATO, and so on continue to be mostly unhelpful if not hurtful. I add this, especially since a lot of most of the insightful comments online have come from the US. I really liked it much better when Americans would take their dumb kids to school and shut the fuck up, had no outlet to spew their bullshit. Every day living here & having to hear the million & 1th new angle by someone out on the social climb is hell. Every current event seems to be another opportunity for a group to divide as many as they can for their gain in their disgusting pissant echo chambers. A million fucking political scientists, sociology majors, podcasters, and conmen. Nothing has made me more happy than to see Facebook/META drop down to pre-COVID stock levels because they're a genuinely terrible company. Americans themselves have become the worlds bitch eating up propaganda and years down the line it's going to be very nice to watch people admit how extreme they are actually were & laugh at them for it. It's only now we're even beginning to reach the level of intelligence that we're starting to have the general capacity to not get manipulated by literal fucking bots. How lovely. I wish for peace in Europe, in Ukraine, and hope that it comes at the cost of ego, not of human lives & living condition. Glory to Ukraine.

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great bait m8

Some of this is pretty much vast generalization but if you've been here long enough & don't see that OP (whoever the fuck he is) actually has some good points you're huffing some straight funny stuff or something lol. No need to gaslight this guy and ask for specific suggestions when he's literally saying it's a problem from the top down and everyone at the top needs to be replaced. That is literally what he writes in his post.

I don't get what you're saying here then? That our votes don't matter?

7 super bowl wins, 9 appearances, countless other record broken over 20 years. Good for him, idk why so many people have to be salty losers over someone retiring on social media. Dude, couldn't even get his own retirement statement out fast enough before people started hating and leaked that he might retire. Hope he gets his dick sucked on a beach somewhere while the minimum wage mcdonalds burger flippers mald on social media about what they would do differently.

I think it's just idiocracy, people vote these people in or help create generalizations that only escalate issues. Maybe I'm just taking the easy way out in saying that though. We can sit and blame the politicians/special interests but no one is required to listen to a TV ad, or a campaign promise. People probably think they're voting on merit, but a lot of the time they've been fed bad statistics that twist the truth, or straight up lies. Politicians across all aisles sell people on desperation, fear, and virtue signaling nonsense. It'd be nice to find a nice, healthy, totally agreeable way to get some of the money out. The way that politicians are able to invest in anything but an ETF that tracks a stock index is fucking absurd to me for example, then you get into campaign finance which can become an entire discussion with very reasonable counterpoints. On the otherhand. I think it's perverse and wrong how stuff like social media, news, etc has become so incredibly polarized and we have propaganda shoved down our throat 24/7. If we aren't keen to it you'll take one bite and then stubbornly continue onwards and it just gets more extreme. I guess I've never really understood the proper solution to it. I try my best to look at things from the most reasonable perspective and to me I just genuinely wish people would turn off the news, turn off social media and try to be more decent to one another. I read a reddit thread about this topic (original OP topic) like an hour ago and it put on display what I'm saying. People either believe you're racist if you don't like it, or you're somehow racist if you do. If people are upset at what Biden's doing, I honestly don't think they're automatically racist (although who knows there's oughta be some racist mad about it). If someone's happy about what he's doing, I also don't think they're a racist. What sells is clearly division, screaming, name calling. You'll never open cable TV to find a reasonable discussion between two people. The craziest shit is that as comical as the discussions are if a normal person does any research they can discover this for themselves.

There's a lot of ways to interpret your post I'm not sure if you think my post says that I believe the world is fair, or that I believe that personally. We should strive for people suited best based on merit though, no? It's kind of not a meritocracy when the sitting President says he's decided what group of people he's going to give a seat in the Supreme Court then for people to be upset that he's virtue signaling that he's accomplishing anything towards equity towards minorities. If he just happened to promote a minority group or hasn't been on the court before I wouldn't really think much of it. It's always a sleight of hand though, he's virtue signaling for a fair system while actually doing the opposite. This isn't to say "wow muh racism against white people", but it's definitely a little lacking in judgement in almost every category for him. I could care less if they promote a woman or a black person or whoever, that's great I'm sure there's a lot of qualified candidates. I think it's just a very stupid vapid move from a politician.

There's no way anyone in this thread believes diversity trumps merit. If you do, I can promise you that there are scumbags in every group of people on earth no matter their race, sex, gender, background. It's ofc less likely to find as many candidates for this among minorities mostly due to past racism hurting economic conditions and many feeling the reverb of that still currently. However, I think coming out and deciding/communicating that any position is only for a woman, or only for one group of people is lacking in logic and unnecessarily controversial. The country currently needs less division and less arguments over semantic bullshit. Look at this thread, look at TV, look at any discussion relating to this issue. If you find a person deserving of the position, who is a woman or who comes from a minority group then the diversity is just a plus, it shouldn't guide your entire decision nor should you boil down an entire persons character because of it. Being recognized for a come-up, or breaking the odds is great (who doesn't love a good underdog story) but I think if a seat is chosen without careful consideration you can end up with a wacky motherfucker making decisions that will fuck the US over for decades. There are some stats used by @TheZZL to prove discrimination in the courts and suggesting that we can right these wrongs. I would caution using stats to prove a point because what you really did was run into the fallacy of causation with your statements. People fell hard for this trap when speaking on things like the gender pay gap for over a decade now, which is not even close to being explained by discrimination but mostly other factors such as motherhood. This kind of thinking isn't to say there isn't discrimination against minorities, women, or anyone for that matter but if you look at inequality as inequity the world starts to look a lot more sinister & the solutions people come up with are usually like shoving a square peg in a round hole. As for speaking on people oppressed in the past set aside by economic hardship (mostly blacks), it's not as if we can magically generate qualified candidates to pick to somehow equal things out (although I'm sure there are qualified ones, I'm speaking more on the fact that race/diversity is in the discussion). If someone exists who is most qualified they'll get picked. If we assume good intentions by Biden his words mean he has already a list of these type of candidates. If we assume the worst he's probably trying to get reelected because many people do not like him. I personally think people are really weak in the head if they don't see it as a political move by him, whether agree or disagree. It's a bad move by a leader who claimed to want to bring people more together by not just hailing someone as a good choice because of their merit & not encourage more tribalistic nonsense bullshit.

Turn VAC & that useless SMAC BS off and we'll get a real scrim going.

next time i am there to cast an SG scrim that shit was probably hilarious & fun

YO MAN I LITERASLLY POSTED THE RULE IN THIS THREAD DOES ANY1 PLAN ON READING THE ACTUAL RULES SOMETIME THIS DECADE AHAHHA

• No teamkilling in any form (applies to both CT and T). You are admin??

I can't hear you man what'd u say?

ive been waiting to showcase my yuumi jungle technology

how do we know this thread is even real tbh?

No job unless some three letter agencies cares about your steam gamers profile... ur fine man.

what'd you say man be honest

I love Roblox, I would love Roblox events y'feel me? Tons of games for the kids, fun for the entire frickin family. Maybe even a permanent presence of SG on Roblox, something Marketing team can make BIG plans about. SG already bout to go viral on these ideas.